13.+Meeting+16.10.2011

=Summary= A very productive meeting all round. Each team member was assigned with a section of the presentation (see 01. The Team). Denise and Callan are happy to oversee the final technical edit of the wikipage, preparing it for the presentation. It was decided that each team member would speak for 3-4 minutes on their section. This would be accompanied by the Wikispaces site that would contain key headings, images needed for each section of the presentation.

=Timeline= It was decided that each team member would have finished a rough draft of their presentation/presentation notes and put them on the wiki by Thursday. Ensuring that it was finished by Saturday

=Team Meaning= The team will meet at 8am at the Computer Kiosk in Building 10, Jones St

=Transcript of Meeting=

=learn4change2. = Welcome to our 2nd Attempt for our group meeting online. Denise at 00:47 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web Bonjour Callan at 06:55 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  Hi Denise Tania at 06:58 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  Sorry Callan - didnt realise you were already online! Tania at 06:58 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web So there is 3 of us so far? I had a voicemail from Chris yesterday - but not sure if he can make it to this meeting Callan at 07:01 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web Are we meant to talk online here now? Tania at 07:02 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web I think so. I've never used this Callan at 07:03 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web Thats good because neither have I and I am seriously starting to feel inadequate because I havent quite got the wikispace even thru thr trai Tania at 07:05 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  hello everyone, sorry, my alarm just went off. here I am. Denise at 07:06 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web I wouldnt worry too much about the technical side of the wikispaces - I am happy to do the final fix up of the formatting etc Callan at 07:06 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  If we can get all the content sorted, and who is writing what, the technical side of things will be fine Callan at 07:06 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  Totally agree about the wiki spaces, it really is about getting the ideas down. Denise at 07:07 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web OK - so if I just type whatever section I get will that be enough for you to format technically? Tania at 07:07 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web Yes, lets decide who is writing which part. I can also fix up things as well. Denise at 07:07 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web Yep. As long as you got the basics - ensure you are signed in, click 'edit' top right hand corner. Type away. Save Callan at 07:07 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Does any one have a preference on what section? Denise at 07:08 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Great - I am happy to undertake whichever section you want - I dont have any preferences Tania at 07:08 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">I like the idea of the broader social, economic etc or the implications section? Denise at 07:09 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Implications for the practice of educators - I think I could work on that bit Callan at 07:09 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Ok, I will do the broader social change. Denise at 07:10 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">I would think that the broad social, economic section is quite bit - I also think that might suit Tania, offering an external perspective Callan at 07:10 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">is quite big, I meant to say - maybe divide into social and economical and Denise and Tania work respectively Callan at 07:11 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Happy to do from an external perspective if you want Tania at 07:11 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Ok good, yes you are right callan, then I will do significance Denise at 07:11 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Sounds good. leaves Chris to clean up the bit on Change that he started Callan at 07:12 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Could I also suggest that we should all feel free to add ideas for each section. Perhaps a model where everyone is in charge of a section... Callan at 07:13 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">...but not solely responsible Callan at 07:13 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Ok, I could do the significance and do a bit of educational broader perspective, just work in with tania. Denise at 07:13 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">yes agree, we can certainly add in sections, that is good collaboration. Denise at 07:13 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">So Summary: Identify the change: Chris Explain its signicance: Denise Broader context: Tania Implications for education/educators: Callan Callan at 07:14 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">The executive summary, we could just have our paragraphs in summary. Denise at 07:15 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Great summary Callan. Do we need to set a deadline? Denise at 07:15 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">And the change we are talking about, is the Digital Education Revolution - the change in education post KRudd/Smith policy Callan at 07:15 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Sounds good - any chance I could get both your mobile numbers just incase I need to contact you Tania at 07:16 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Yes DER policy, should we look at its NSW implementation policy for state schools, maybe Denise at 07:16 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">my number is DL that is 0438540901 Denise at 07:17 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">DL? Mine is 0405225526 Callan at 07:17 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Thanks Tania at 07:18 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">DL is my initials, DOh! I am a bit blond sometimes. Denise at 07:18 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Tania, in terms of broader context, I would think you would be looking at the shift towards technology in Ed, particularly from a political Callan at 07:18 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">OK Tania at 07:19 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">The political side you could branch out from the first assignment Callan at 07:19 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">I think we would also be looking at the shift towards 1:1 computing. Why is this the model that has prevailed? Callan at 07:19 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Significance: thinking about the change in thinking; 1;1 is part of it, the way learning and social networking etc. Denise at 07:20 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Yep Tania at 07:20 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Just thinking: In terms of defininng the topic/scope. Perhaps something like the increased use of technology in high schools Callan at 07:22 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Ok, I think that is good. How many words do you think our sections should be 750 words is 6 mins, approx. (I think) Denise at 07:22 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Just thinking about phrasing it in a way that doesn't assume that KRudd defined change. I think it was very reactionary Callan at 07:23 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Presentation is only 15 mins and I think we get marked on timing as well as content so maybe 500 words each bewteen the 4 of us? Tania at 07:24 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">We have 3-4 mins each. Also, I don't think we are marked on our writing?? Callan at 07:24 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Not sure - would have to check Tania at 07:25 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">In terms of presentations, I am an advocate of minimal text on screens - I don't like reading stuff out to people Callan at 07:25 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Yes agreed, he saw DER as an economy. Ok, got it about the time. Yes 3-4 mins is such a small amount of time. Anyway, happy with that. Denise at 07:25 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">yes, I agree about the text, on screen, definitely not, but if we have prepared our notes around that idea. Yes and no clipart! Denise at 07:26 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Agreed Tania at 07:26 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Cool. So we need to check if our wikispaces site will be assessed - otherwise there is really no need to pretty it up Callan at 07:27 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">I am thinking we would just reference the wiki, add images etc.. move down it, not powerpoint? ideas anyone. Denise at 07:28 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">But writing up your 500 words on the site means we can all read up on each other's sections and know what everyone would say Callan at 07:28 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">I will leave that to you both as I haven't worked in wikispaces before - Tania at 07:29 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Yes agree, so we need to put it all on the wiki. Wikis can have links to things etc. Denise at 07:29 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Leave it to the two of you to decide I meant! Tania at 07:29 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">to be honest, I am not sure how important the visual side of the presentation will be - As long as it isn't as tacky as the other groups Callan at 07:29 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Perhaps a simple Prezi - basic headings and/or images if needed Callan at 07:30 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">I dont do tacky Callan! Tania at 07:30 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Ok. Wont be tacky!But succinct and clever is good. We need to make sure Chris is on track. Denise at 07:30 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Ha ha, good to hear. Those groups last time were ridiculous! And they also went for far too long. Callan at 07:31 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">I did think of a prezi, however, I like being able to show the wiki as a good group collaboration depository! Denise at 07:31 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Callan can you make sure Chris is on track as you seem to have the relationship? Tania at 07:31 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Yeah, I will contact him Callan at 07:32 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Yes totally agree about the longness of the other groups! not good. Denise at 07:32 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Denise although I registered for Prezi, have never used it - this is a HUGE learning curve which is good. Tania at 07:32 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">I have never used Prezi myself - although lots of my students use it - they love it Callan at 07:33 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Funny you should say about learning curve, I learnt the most in the whole course in group project with AnneBB, fantastic. Denise at 07:33 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">OK maybe that means my sons have used it Tania at 07:33 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">I use prezi all the time! you can actually have a group prezi, but have a time life. Denise at 07:34 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">So as for our presentation: Perhaps (and I am happy to volunteer) we could work on turning the wiki into a more visual website Callan at 07:35 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Ok so do we use wiki or prezi (I did like your thought that wiki indicates group collaboration) Tania at 07:35 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Just a basic home page, that links to the various sections with key headings/images for each section should suffice Callan at 07:35 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Yes that sounds good. Tania at 07:35 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">I can do the prezi based on the groups stuff, and then send out the link for all to edit later. However, yes lets make the wiki great! Denise at 07:35 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">The wiki is a webpage essentially, yes lets just make it look good that way. Denise at 07:36 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Alright. I am going to put this transcript, and a summary on the wiki now. As well as contact Chris and make sure he is up to speed Callan at 07:37 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Sorry that I am not up to speed so I will be typing and hoping you will do the techo stuff Callan - is that OK? Tania at 07:37 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Yep, I am fine with that. Tania, just edit the relevant section Callan at 07:37 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">OK Tania at 07:38 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Ok, that is good callan. I will add my stuff and set up the executive summary, I have put all the links to other pages on the home. Denise at 07:38 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Alright. I think this will be good. Callan at 07:39 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Tania, you will be amazed at how quickly you get used to working on the wiki, quite easy. Denise at 07:39 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Ok good to go? Did we set a deadline? Denise at 07:39 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Cool - I am quite enjoying the additional learning from this subject! Tania at 07:40 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Are we meeting at 8am next Sat as well? Tania at 07:40 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Timeline: Everyone should have done a rough version by Thursday. Ensured they're finised by Saturday morning? Callan at 07:41 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">sounds good Tania at 07:42 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">ok 8 am, might be a good idea, maybe at the gloria jeans? on george street? maybe? Finish draft by thursday, final by saturday morning. Denise at 07:42 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Gloria Jeans? isn't that Town Hall? Callan at 07:43 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Any chance we could meet at uni in the computer bay in building 10? Tania at 07:44 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Is there one near the uni? Uni would be better for me. Not a big fan of Gloria jeans Callan at 07:44 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">If we need to access computer then we have that facility at uni Tania at 07:44 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Ok wrong coffee franchise. No worries, agreed building 10 computer kiosk. Good. Locked in! Denise at 07:45 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Sounds good to me - those computers just at the entrance on level 2? Callan at 07:46 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">ok, yes that is the ones level 2 at the entrance. See you then. Otherwise see you all in cyberspace. Denise at 07:47 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">excellent! Hope I wont have to bug either of you this week but thanks for mobile numbers just incase - yes computer kiosk just on the right Tania at 07:47 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">No dramas if you need to contact - I check my email regularly as well Callan at 07:47 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Happy to help tania! Denise at 07:47 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">see you all, go the wallabies! Denise at 07:48 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">cool - thanks for this - speak to you this week and see you both next Sat Tania at 07:48 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Yes, it is Rugby time! Callan at 07:48 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">Au revoir Callan at 07:48 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web  <span class="message-text" style="font-family: Georgia,'Times New Roman',Times,serif; font-size: 29px;">bye Tania at 07:49 AM, 16 Oct 2011 via web